Discussion:
Mexican ambassador says illegal aliens burdening taxpayers is “urban myth”
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Jose
2011-02-03 21:59:18 UTC
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Examiner.com -

“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.


http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambassador-says-illegal-aliens-using-social-services-is-urban-myth
charles q
2011-02-03 23:38:50 UTC
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Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
They do create a financil burden to th Americans and if their coming
for jobs their definitely comingto the wrong country's because there
are virtualy no jobs to be found more or less and what jobs are
available should be reserved for the American citizens.It is not our
reponcibility to take in everyone from all over the world here in this
country,even more so now with no jobs and the economy spiralinmg every
downwards.There comes a time in all country's when you have to say
enough is enough and close off the borders until we can take care of
our own people and country before we allow anyone else from anywhere
at al to come here to live
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-04 16:49:10 UTC
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Post by charles q
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
They do create a financil burden to th Americans and if their coming
for jobs their definitely comingto the wrong country's because there
are virtualy no jobs to be found more or less and what jobs are
available should be reserved for the American citizens.It is not our
reponcibility to take in everyone from all over the world here in this
country,even more so now with no jobs and the economy spiralinmg every
downwards.There comes a time in all country's when you have to say
enough is enough and close off the borders until we can take care of
our own people and country before we allow anyone else from anywhere
at al to come here to live
Immigration (legal and otherwise) is one of the best job creating
activities.

Your proposal (close the border and take care of our own) assumes a
fixed size pie, no growth and happens to be communist/socialist.
Charles: you have never set foot in a classroom where the Science of
Economics was being taught.

This is what KNOWLEDGEABLE folks -from left and right- have to say:

http://www.renewoureconomy.org

Documented the undocumented will bring $1.4 trillion into the economy.

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce
T***@gmail.com
2011-02-04 17:07:46 UTC
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Nunca pensé que fueras comunista, los antichavistas son capitalistas.Y tu
eres buen antichavista y venezolano patriota [1ue no compagina bien].

T.Schmidt
P.S. Yo vine a los USA en 1964 y quise ir a Vietnam (pero no me acettaron.
¿Peleaste en Vietnam? ¿Mataste muchos comunistas?
Post by charles q
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
They do create a financil burden to th Americans and if their coming
for jobs their definitely comingto the wrong country's because there
are virtualy no jobs to be found more or less and what jobs are
available should be reserved for the American citizens.It is not our
reponcibility to take in everyone from all over the world here in this
country,even more so now with no jobs and the economy spiralinmg every
downwards.There comes a time in all country's when you have to say
enough is enough and close off the borders until we can take care of
our own people and country before we allow anyone else from anywhere
at al to come here to live
Immigration (legal and otherwise) is one of the best job creating
activities.

Your proposal (close the border and take care of our own) assumes a
fixed size pie, no growth and happens to be communist/socialist.
Charles: you have never set foot in a classroom where the Science of
Economics was being taught.

This is what KNOWLEDGEABLE folks -from left and right- have to say:

http://www.renewoureconomy.org

Documented the undocumented will bring $1.4 trillion into the economy.

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-04 16:55:49 UTC
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Post by charles q
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
They do create a financil burden to th Americans and if their coming
for jobs their definitely comingto the wrong country's because there
are virtualy no jobs to be found more or less and what jobs are
available should be reserved for the American citizens.It is not our
reponcibility to take in everyone from all over the world here in this
country,even more so now with no jobs and the economy spiralinmg every
downwards.There comes a time in all country's when you have to say
enough is enough and close off the borders until we can take care of
our own people and country before we allow anyone else from anywhere
at al to come here to live
We either import the Mexican workers or export the jobs to Mexico.

Your pick, Chuck:

http://tinyurl.com/2arj2lf

-Ramon
Proud Member of the US Chamber of Commerce (regular and Hispanic)
So quit calling me commie, will ya'?
100% Supporter of the position on immigration being
lobbied and led by The US Chamber of Commerce
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
2011-02-04 00:07:11 UTC
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So why has CA gone from the richest state in america to a bankrupt
cesspool i 30 years?
Jose
2011-02-04 00:09:19 UTC
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On Feb 3, 6:07 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS"
Post by Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
So why has CA gone from the richest state in america to a bankrupt
cesspool i 30 years?
gringos fault.
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-04 17:00:57 UTC
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On Feb 3, 6:07 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS"
Post by Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
So why has CA gone from the richest state in america to a bankrupt
cesspool i 30 years?
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with more Hispanics
and more members of the undocumented workforce.

http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/texas
Loading Image...

Out of the 10 best cities for jobs, and recession-proof in America,
FIVE are in Texas:

http://tinyurl.com/24ttxhf

-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal Transplanted to Texas
T***@gmail.com
2011-02-04 17:17:34 UTC
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En Canada no gustamos la gente que vive South of the Border. Y Texas is as
far as you can go.

T.Schmidt
P.S. Canada es mejor.




"Ramon F Herrera" <***@conexus.net> wrote in message news:7e07477c-330d-4232-a7be-***@d23g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 3, 6:07 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS"
Post by Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
So why has CA gone from the richest state in america to a bankrupt
cesspool i 30 years?
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with more Hispanics
and more members of the undocumented workforce.

http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/texas
http://patriot.net/~ramon/Texas-Demo.png

Out of the 10 best cities for jobs, and recession-proof in America,
FIVE are in Texas:

http://tinyurl.com/24ttxhf

-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal Transplanted to Texas
Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are Murderers
2011-02-04 18:50:54 UTC
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Post by Jose
On Feb 3, 6:07 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS"
Post by Speeders & Drunk Drivers are DEADLY PSYCHOPATHS
So why has CA gone from the richest state in america to a bankrupt
cesspool i 30 years?
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with more Hispanics
and more members of the undocumented workforce.
TX is nearly bankrupt too, you liar.
f. barnes
2011-02-04 03:41:34 UTC
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Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
"Mexican ambassador says illegal aliens burdening taxpayers is 'urban
myth' "

Of course he would say that. But can anyone believe him, or even hear
what he says. All I hear from those pushing illegal immigration is
"blah, blah, blah, blah".
T***@gmail.com
2011-02-04 04:00:59 UTC
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Yo no veo inmigracion ilegal, lo que yo veo es reconquista, llámenla como
quieran.

T.Schmidt
P.S. Los gringos van a terminar devolviendo todo lo que se adueñaron.cuando
eran poderosos.
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
"Mexican ambassador says illegal aliens burdening taxpayers is 'urban
myth' "

Of course he would say that. But can anyone believe him, or even hear
what he says. All I hear from those pushing illegal immigration is
"blah, blah, blah, blah".
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-04 17:18:29 UTC
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Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
to say about the issue:

"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"

"FOX Business <<<=====================

"Arizona’s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states – a
phenomenon that’s likely larger than many people realize.

Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.

The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers’ Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.

According to the Comptrollers’ office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"

[More Here:]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442

-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
f. barnes
2011-02-04 18:21:10 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business  <<<=====================
"Arizona’s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states – a
phenomenon that’s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers’ Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers’ office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Sure, sure, blah, blah , blah , blah. Statitics don't lie, but
staticticians do. That study ignores the number one cost: supporting
their damn anchor babies. So it's just more senseless and irrelevant
blah, blah, blah, blah. Nobody gives a shit.
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-04 19:00:59 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business  <<<=====================
"Arizona’s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states – a
phenomenon that’s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers’ Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers’ office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Sure, sure, blah, blah , blah , blah.   Statitics don't lie, but
staticticians do.
That study ignores the number one cost: supporting
their damn anchor babies.
No, the study does not ignore anything, it is comprehensive.

Since we agree to disagree, perhaps you can find ONE company in the US
that supports your statements? There are 23,808,049 companies in the
US, and your side has been unable to find ONE. How come? (in six years
I have been asking you). How hard can it be to prove me wrong? It is
not like I am asking you to produce Their 2 Holinesses: The one with
the funny hat in The Vatican and Steve Jobs, in person. A simple URL
will suffice.

There are TWO types of studies:

(1) Some sponsored by NumbersUSA, FAIR, CIS, et el. They are members
of the network of hate. Have undeniable ties with White Supremacists,
The Pioneer Fund (oh, you say that I am the one in the side of hate?
How come you cannot find ONE church on your side???).

http://www.economicrefugee.net/tag/neo-nazi (2 videos)

(2) Studies published by EVERYBODY else: universities,government,
businesses, etc.

The two classes of studies show completely opposite results. Guess
what results are found by which group?

-Ramon
f. barnes
2011-02-05 05:45:29 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business  <<<=====================
"Arizona’s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states – a
phenomenon that’s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers’ Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers’ office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Sure, sure, blah, blah , blah , blah.   Statitics don't lie, but
staticticians do.
 > That study ignores the number one cost: supporting
 > their damn anchor babies.
No, the study does not ignore anything, it is comprehensive.
You lie!

From the Texas Comptroller's study itself: "In education, FAIR’s
report included the costs of legal children to undocumented parents.
The inclusion of these children dramatically increased the costs
reported. The Comptroller’s report focuses its attention on the costs
directly attributed to undocumented persons."

http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/undocumented/undocumented.pdf

That is, the Texas Comptrollers report does not include the cost to
the taxpayers of supporting anchor babies since due to the
misapplication of the 14th they are considered to be legal citizens
and not undocumented persons.

Therefore Fair's study is the fair, accurate, and comprehensive
study. But you already knew that.
Since we agree to disagree, perhaps you can find ONE company in the US
that supports your statements? There are 23,808,049 companies in the
US, and your side has been unable to find ONE. How come? (in six years
I have been asking you). How hard can it be to prove me wrong? It is
not like I am asking you to produce Their 2 Holinesses: The one with
the funny hat in The Vatican and Steve Jobs, in person. A simple URL
will suffice.
I don't expect the establishment to say anything else. And its just
blah, blah, blah, blah.
 (1) Some sponsored by NumbersUSA, FAIR, CIS, et el. They are members
of the network of hate. Have undeniable ties with White Supremacists,
The Pioneer Fund (oh, you say that I am the one in the side of hate?
How come you cannot find ONE church on your side???).
http://www.economicrefugee.net/tag/neo-nazi(2 videos)
 (2) Studies published by EVERYBODY else: universities,government,
businesses, etc.
The two classes of studies show completely opposite results. Guess
what results are found by which group?
-Ramon- Hide quoted text -
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Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-05 16:29:04 UTC
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You cannot include the cost of expenses on US citizens. That would be
illegal, immoral and a sin.

That is why no church (or corporation) is on your side.

The claim about "the establishment" sounds like claiming defeat (or
incompetence). You will of course get a lot of imaginary votes ("from
real Americans") to thwart the evil establishment, right?

The all but assured GOP candidate Mitt Rodney is on the board of
immigrant-reliant Marriott. Let's see what Marriott has to say:

http://www.renewoureconomy.org

-Ramon
Red Cloud
2011-02-05 17:42:07 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
You cannot include the cost of expenses on US citizens. That would be
illegal, immoral and a sin.
This must be a great new for tourists over-stay visa. Just drop babe
in US soil
and they earn automatically US citizenship and the parent are not .
what are the US gov't do about it? Parent are illegal and their babe
is not.... Now ask real question about the morality and sin.... How
about the moral responsibility of the parent for take babe and go
back to their home country? I guess this is too much
to ask for Hispanick invader... since his goal is Reconquista...
Post by Ramon F Herrera
That is why no church (or corporation) is on your side.
Oh sure!!!! Church is in full support of anchor babe and their
parent. Guess what. Hispanick catholic church like the one in San
Antonio where the Hispanick Priest manfactured faked ID (Green
Card, SS, etc) and sold to illegal aliens. Hispanick church do
this because they have moral responsibility to make illegal as legal
as it's sin to deport them to Mexico. What a wonderful truths!!!!!
Espanuelo
2011-02-04 18:40:51 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
“For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to ‘drop babies’ and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business<<<=====================
"Arizona’s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states – a
phenomenon that’s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers’ Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers’ office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will take
the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-04 19:05:23 UTC
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Post by Espanuelo
Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to drop babies and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business<<<=====================
"Arizona s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states a
phenomenon that s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Texas is also the Third World
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with most Hispanics
and most undocumented workers.

http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/texas
http://patriot.net/~ramon/Texas-Demo.png

And yet, out of the 10 best cities for jobs, and recession-proof in
America, FIVE are in Texas:

http://tinyurl.com/24ttxhf

You are stating that Corporate America (personified by the US Chamber
of Commerce) want to convert Texas in a 3rd. world state, so their
affiliated companies sell FEWER products and services?? That is a
unique and fascinating viewpoint, care to expound on it? (don't forget
to post your Economics diplomas!!).

-RFH
Espanuelo
2011-02-05 17:47:20 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Espanuelo
Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to drop babies and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business<<<=====================
"Arizona s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states a
phenomenon that s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Texas is also the Third World
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with most Hispanics
and most undocumented workers.
http://projects.nytimes.com/immigration/enrollment/texas
http://patriot.net/~ramon/Texas-Demo.png
And yet, out of the 10 best cities for jobs, and recession-proof in
http://tinyurl.com/24ttxhf
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will take
the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
Post by Ramon F Herrera
You are stating that Corporate America (personified by the US Chamber
of Commerce) want to convert Texas in a 3rd. world state, so their
affiliated companies sell FEWER products and services?? That is a
unique and fascinating viewpoint, care to expound on it? (don't forget
to post your Economics diplomas!!).
-RFH
Before there was the border between Texas and other states like
Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
There was a dyke, but I say if you delete the dyke, it leveled.
Question time, 10 or 20 years.
--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Alboroto
2011-02-05 20:31:34 UTC
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Post by Espanuelo
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will take
the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
Como escribas inglés igual de mal que catalán no te van a entender.
Además yo buscaba las coordenadas que justifiquen esas afirmaciones, y
no las encuentro. ¡Ni siquiera tienes mapas!
Espanuelo
2011-02-06 17:32:10 UTC
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Post by Alboroto
Post by Espanuelo
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will
take the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
Como escribas inglés igual de mal que catalán no te van a entender.
Además yo buscaba las coordenadas que justifiquen esas afirmaciones, y
no las encuentro. ¡Ni siquiera tienes mapas!
Jas, un mapa de Iberia així sabràs que éts catalana.

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--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Alboroto
2011-02-06 20:22:06 UTC
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Post by Espanuelo
Post by Alboroto
Post by Espanuelo
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will
take the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
Como escribas inglés igual de mal que catalán no te van a entender.
Además yo buscaba las coordenadas que justifiquen esas afirmaciones, y
no las encuentro. ¡Ni siquiera tienes mapas!
Jas, un mapa de Iberia així sabràs que éts catalana.
http://www.borders-of-nations.arrakis.es/iberia.jpg
Anda que ahora lo has arreglado, Ibiza queda aparte y forma nación con
Valencia y Murcia... jajaja. Ay
Espanuelo
2011-02-07 17:13:45 UTC
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Post by Alboroto
Post by Espanuelo
Post by Alboroto
Post by Espanuelo
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will
take the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
Como escribas inglés igual de mal que catalán no te van a entender.
Además yo buscaba las coordenadas que justifiquen esas afirmaciones, y
no las encuentro. ¡Ni siquiera tienes mapas!
Jas, un mapa de Iberia així sabràs que éts catalana.
http://www.borders-of-nations.arrakis.es/iberia.jpg
Anda que ahora lo has arreglado, Ibiza queda aparte y forma nación con
Valencia y Murcia... jajaja. Ay
Hauré de trobar un nom apropiat per la gent de Ciudad-Real, Albacete,
Jaén, Granada, Almeria?
Lis va bé "navajeros", "cabrits"?
--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Red Cloud
2011-02-05 17:57:18 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to drop babies and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business<<<=====================
"Arizona s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states a
phenomenon that s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
 > Texas is also the Third World
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with most Hispanics
and most undocumented workers.
Hispanicks are best citizen or better than any other race. Oh really?
Why is your Hispanick nations are all fucked up?
Why is Mexico and all other Hispanick nations are falling behind all
Asian nations?
Why is that? Why Mexico just can't grow? Huh... Tell me ..... Try
hide something Dr. Reconquista Herrera! If your statement is
truth, you only prove the superiority White Anglo because Texas is
still run by White Anglo not by your Hispanicks. Economic, politic
still control by White Anglo despite of growing and expanding of
your Hispanick population and despite of the Hispanick invasion.

Go check out Mexico or South American Banana Republic nation and see
how
wonderful your Spanish race have created there. They are worse than
any Asian nations YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!!!
Alboroto
2011-02-05 20:29:26 UTC
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Post by Red Cloud
Post by Ramon F Herrera
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with most Hispanics
and most undocumented workers.
Hispanicks are best citizen or better than any other race. Oh really?
SI, ¿algún problema?
T***@gmail.com
2011-02-05 21:21:47 UTC
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Texas tiene muchos alemanes, que se han mezclado con los mexicanos. Los
teutones somos el tercer grupo etnico en Texas

GERMANS. The largest ethnic group in Texas derived directly from Europe was
persons of German birth or descent. As early as 1850, they constituted more
than 5 percent of the total Texas population, a proportion that remained
constant through the remainder of the nineteenth century. Intermarriage has
blurred ethnic lines, but the 1990 United States census revealed that
1,175,888 Texans claimed pure and 1,775,838 partial German ancestry, for a
total of 2,951,726, or 17œ percent of the total population. By this count,
Germans rank behind Hispanics and form the third-largest national-origin
group in the state. Most persons of German descent do not regard themselves
as ethnic Germans, however. From their first immigration to Texas in the
1830s, the Germans tended to cluster in ethnic enclaves. A majority settled
in a broad, fragmented belt across the south central part of the state. This
belt stretched from Galveston and Houston on the east to Kerrville, Mason,
and Hondo in the west; from the fertile, humid Coastal Plain to the semiarid
Hill Country. This German Belt included most of the Teutonic settlements in
the state, both rural and urban.

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/png02

La verdad es que mucha musica considerada mexicana es de origen aleman.

http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/f/germanmusicqa.htm

Los mexicanos quieren tanto a los alemanes que el Kaiser queria que ayudaran
en la Primera Guerra Mundial. Pero los mexicanos no hicieron caso, ellos
pensaron en el general Pershing (que tambien es aleman) y Pancho Villa.

T.Schmidt
Post by Alboroto
Post by Red Cloud
Post by Ramon F Herrera
Why is Texas doing so well?? We are the 2nd. state with most Hispanics
and most undocumented workers.
Hispanicks are best citizen or better than any other race. Oh really?
SI, ¿algún problema?
Ramon F Herrera
2011-02-06 20:24:12 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to drop babies and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business<<<=====================
"Arizona s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states a
phenomenon that s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
   Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will take
the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Hey,

Espanuelo: Como se siente estar empegostado con tantos mocos??

-RFH
Espanuelo
2011-02-07 20:05:57 UTC
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Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Espanuelo
Post by Ramon F Herrera
Post by Jose
Examiner.com -
For someone who profoundly disagrees with the urban myth that they
are coming here to drop babies and take and abuse health and
education services, those numbers reflect one powerful truth --
immigrants come in search of a job.
http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/mexican-ambass...
Let's see what Faux (their Business side, not their racist side) has
"Despite Rhetoric, Illegal Immigration Provides Benefits to States"
"FOX Business<<<=====================
"Arizona s recently-passed immigration law has drawn heated debate on
both sides of the immigration issue, but there has been little focus
on what economic impact illegal immigration has on border states a
phenomenon that s likely larger than many people realize.
Putting the law and morality of illegal entry aside, several studies
have shown the illegal immigrant population is more of an economic
contributor to state and local economies than politicians like to tell
an angry electorate. The numbers can be broken down into the fiscal
cost (or gain) of illegal immigrants to states, along with the
economic contribution of the population.
The most thorough study on the fiscal and economic impact of
immigration was done by the non-partisan Texas Comptrollers Office in
2006, which showed Texas earned more in taxes and economic output from
illegal immigrants than governments spent to provide services.
According to the Comptrollers office, state and local governments
spent $1.16 billion to provide services like education, health care
and safety, but raised an estimated $1.58 billion in tax revenues.
Based on the data, the Texas taxpayer made a $424.7 million profit on
its illegal immigrant population in [...]"
[More Here:]
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b5_1280670442
-Ramon The Bostonian Liberal (socially) and Capitalist Transplanted to
Texas
Texas is also the Third World, like Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas.
Like communicating vessels, they will be balanced and all four will take
the same level.
Texas will have the same level as Coahuila, for instance.
--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Hey,
Espanuelo: Como se siente estar empegostado con tantos mocos??
-RFH
Do you remember the "Pirata Azul"?
Have you change the nick?
--
"There are five worlds, but they are in this one"
The Third World is between the parallels 18 and 36 degrees
Don Gabacho
2011-02-05 17:16:33 UTC
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That Sarukhan is an "ambassador" is the "urban myth."
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