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More than 150000 Mexican cargo trucks await US permits
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Jose
2011-10-29 17:15:54 UTC
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Steve from Colorado
2011-10-30 01:45:06 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?

I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico. As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
Ramon F. Herrera
2011-10-30 13:19:12 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict

After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."

http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz

-RFH
f. barnes
2011-10-30 20:13:16 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict
After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."
http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz
-RFH
I can't imagine many American truckers will want to travel into the
failed and dangerous nation of Mexico. Were I a trucker, I damn sure
wouldn't.
Tonico
2011-10-31 03:02:35 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict
After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."
http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz
-RFH
I can't imagine many American truckers will want to travel into the
failed and dangerous nation of Mexico.  Were I a trucker, I damn sure
wouldn't.-
Well done! That way mexican truckers will enjoy of a bigger part of
the juicy cargo business BOTH in USA and in Mexico...which is only
fair taking into account that a mexican truckers getting north of the
Río Bravo = Río Grande are just continuing to travel within Mexico,
the part that USA stole in 1848...

Saludiux
Toño
plainolamerican
2011-10-31 15:41:19 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict
After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."
http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz
-RFH
I can't imagine many American truckers will want to travel into the
failed and dangerous nation of Mexico.  Were I a trucker, I damn sure
wouldn't.-
Well done! That way mexican truckers will enjoy of a bigger part of
the juicy cargo business BOTH in USA and in Mexico...which is only
fair taking into account that a mexican truckers getting north of the
Río Bravo = Río Grande are just continuing to travel within Mexico,
the part that USA stole in 1848...
Saludiux
Toño
the part that USA stole in 1848
----
Outnumbered militarily and with many of its large cities occupied,
Mexico could not defend itself and was also faced with internal
divisions. It had little choice but to make peace on any terms.[48]
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848, by
American diplomat Nicholas Trist and Mexican plenipotentiary
representatives Luis G. Cuevas, Bernardo Couto, and Miguel Atristain,
ended the war and gave the U.S. undisputed control of Texas,
established the U.S.-Mexican border of the Rio Grande River, and ceded
to the United States the present-day states of California, Nevada,
Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Texas,
Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. In return, Mexico received US
$18,250,000[49] ($461,725,000 today)—less than half the amount the
U.S. had attempted to offer Mexico for the land before the opening of
hostilities[50]—and the U.S. agreed to assume $3.25-million
($82,225,000 today) in debts that the Mexican government owed to U.S.
citizens.[10]
Tonico
2011-11-01 15:45:07 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict
After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."
http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz
-RFH
I can't imagine many American truckers will want to travel into the
failed and dangerous nation of Mexico.  Were I a trucker, I damn sure
wouldn't.-
Well done! That way mexican truckers will enjoy of a bigger part of
the juicy cargo business BOTH in USA and in Mexico...which is only
fair taking into account that a mexican truckers getting north of the
Río Bravo = Río Grande are just continuing to travel within Mexico,
the part that USA stole in 1848...
Saludiux
Toño
the part that USA stole in 1848
----
Outnumbered militarily and with many of its large cities occupied,
Mexico could not defend itself and was also faced with internal
divisions. It had little choice but to make peace on any terms.[48]
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848, by
American diplomat Nicholas Trist and Mexican plenipotentiary
representatives Luis G. Cuevas, Bernardo Couto, and Miguel Atristain,
ended the war and gave the U.S. undisputed control of Texas,
established the U.S.-Mexican border of the Rio Grande River, and ceded
to the United States the present-day states of California, Nevada,
Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Texas,
Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. In return, Mexico received US
$18,250,000[49] ($461,725,000 today)—less than half the amount the
U.S. had attempted to offer Mexico for the land before the opening of
hostilities[50]—and the U.S. agreed to assume $3.25-million
($82,225,000 today) in debts that the Mexican government owed to U.S.
citizens.[10]-
Exactly: an outrageous robbery of more than 2 million square kms. in
what Ulises Grant, the future president of the USA, called "[the war,]
one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker
nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of
European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to
acquire additional territory."

Saludiux
Toño
Espanuelo
2011-11-01 17:37:47 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico. As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict
After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."
http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz
-RFH
I can't imagine many American truckers will want to travel into the
failed and dangerous nation of Mexico. Were I a trucker, I damn sure
wouldn't.-
Well done! That way mexican truckers will enjoy of a bigger part of
the juicy cargo business BOTH in USA and in Mexico...which is only
fair taking into account that a mexican truckers getting north of the
Río Bravo = Río Grande are just continuing to travel within Mexico,
the part that USA stole in 1848...
Saludiux
Toño
the part that USA stole in 1848
----
Outnumbered militarily and with many of its large cities occupied,
Mexico could not defend itself and was also faced with internal
divisions. It had little choice but to make peace on any terms.[48]
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848, by
American diplomat Nicholas Trist and Mexican plenipotentiary
representatives Luis G. Cuevas, Bernardo Couto, and Miguel Atristain,
ended the war and gave the U.S. undisputed control of Texas,
established the U.S.-Mexican border of the Rio Grande River, and ceded
to the United States the present-day states of California, Nevada,
Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Texas,
Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. In return, Mexico received US
$18,250,000[49] ($461,725,000 today)—less than half the amount the
U.S. had attempted to offer Mexico for the land before the opening of
hostilities[50]—and the U.S. agreed to assume $3.25-million
($82,225,000 today) in debts that the Mexican government owed to U.S.
citizens.[10]-
Exactly: an outrageous robbery of more than 2 million square kms. in
what Ulises Grant, the future president of the USA, called "[the war,]
one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker
nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of
European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to
acquire additional territory."
Saludiux
Toño
Requiring to the U.S. and Mexico to renounce their alleged rights upon
this territories between the parallels 18ºN and 36ºN for declare them
as independent.

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plainolamerican
2011-11-01 21:37:33 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"Landmark US-Mexico trucking agreement resolves 15-year conflict
After years of wrangling, US and Mexican officials signed an agreement
Wednesday that allows trucks from each nation to travel on the other
country’s highways – a key provision of NAFTA."
http://tinyurl.com/68t7dxz
-RFH
I can't imagine many American truckers will want to travel into the
failed and dangerous nation of Mexico.  Were I a trucker, I damn sure
wouldn't.-
Well done! That way mexican truckers will enjoy of a bigger part of
the juicy cargo business BOTH in USA and in Mexico...which is only
fair taking into account that a mexican truckers getting north of the
Río Bravo = Río Grande are just continuing to travel within Mexico,
the part that USA stole in 1848...
Saludiux
Toño
the part that USA stole in 1848
----
Outnumbered militarily and with many of its large cities occupied,
Mexico could not defend itself and was also faced with internal
divisions. It had little choice but to make peace on any terms.[48]
The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848, by
American diplomat Nicholas Trist and Mexican plenipotentiary
representatives Luis G. Cuevas, Bernardo Couto, and Miguel Atristain,
ended the war and gave the U.S. undisputed control of Texas,
established the U.S.-Mexican border of the Rio Grande River, and ceded
to the United States the present-day states of California, Nevada,
Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Texas,
Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. In return, Mexico received US
$18,250,000[49] ($461,725,000 today)—less than half the amount the
U.S. had attempted to offer Mexico for the land before the opening of
hostilities[50]—and the U.S. agreed to assume $3.25-million
($82,225,000 today) in debts that the Mexican government owed to U.S.
citizens.[10]-
Exactly: an outrageous robbery of more than 2 million square kms. in
what Ulises Grant, the future president of the USA, called "[the war,]
one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker
nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of
European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to
acquire additional territory."
Saludiux
Toño
Exactly: an outrageous robbery
---
hogwash

you'll probably say the same thing when we annex all of Mexico

Ramon F. Herrera
2011-10-30 13:44:12 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico.  As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"The agreement gives U.S. trucking companies equal access to Mexican
highways, but few are expected to take advantage of it because
transportation costs using Mexican haulers are substantially cheaper."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/us-trucking-nafta-idUSTRE79K75P20111021

-RFH
Hisler
2011-10-31 06:46:19 UTC
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Why is it that this, like all other agreements with Mexico, acts as a
one way revolving door for Mexican trucks to enter and leave the
United States while there is no reciprocal benefit to American truck
drivers?
I see no mention of American trucking companies waiting for permission
to bring, say, apples from Washington state down to Mexico. As per
"migration accords," every agreement allows for Mexicans to come north
while the normal restrictions apply to Americans heading south.
"The agreement gives U.S. trucking companies equal access to Mexican
highways, but few are expected to take advantage of it because
transportation costs using Mexican haulers are substantially cheaper."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/us-trucking-nafta-idUSTRE79K75P20111021
-RFH
The dice are loaded. Clearly Ramon F Herrera is a paid operative of the
Mexican government -- paid to play cheerleader to Mexican truckers
putting American truckers out of work and helping to destroy the USA.
Tonico
2011-10-31 11:00:05 UTC
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The dice are loaded.  Clearly Ramon F Herrera is a paid operative of the
Mexican government -- paid to play cheerleader to Mexican truckers
putting American truckers out of work and helping to destroy the USA.-
Yeah..as "clear" as you being a paid operative of the gringo
government and its bitch the teamsters...

Saludiux
Toño
Ramon F. Herrera
2011-10-30 14:26:35 UTC
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A government study that was clearly demonstrating that the Mexican
trucks and truckers are SAFER than their US counterparts was abruptly
cancelled, under pressure by the Teamsters.

-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
2011-10-30 14:42:12 UTC
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A government study that was clearly demonstrating that the Mexican
trucks and truckers are SAFER than their US counterparts was abruptly
cancelled, under pressure by the Teamsters.
-Ramon
"Congressional and private sector studies concluded Mexican trucks in
the US received fewer safety violations than their American
counterparts."

http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2011/07/19/revving-up-expectations/

-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
2011-10-30 14:58:47 UTC
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A government study that was clearly demonstrating that the Mexican
trucks and truckers are SAFER than their US counterparts was abruptly
cancelled, under pressure by the Teamsters.
-Ramon
"Congress failed to continue funding for the program in 2009, largely
because of pressure from the Teamsters union, which claimed that
Mexican trucks were unsafe.

"Studies reportedly showed, however, that trucks from Mexico were at
least as safe as U.S. trucks."

http://tinyurl.com/3q932kx

-RFH
Ramon F. Herrera
2011-10-30 14:00:59 UTC
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Mexico will obviously send "la creme de la creme" among its trucks and
drivers, while the US might send any crappy, drunk driver with a
substandard truck to Mexico.

That is what we do in the US: We attract the best of the best from
other countries, from the best surgeons, scientists and engineers
(moi!) to the best drugs.

Those countries are left with inferior professional and inferior dope.

-Ramon

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"The Congressional Research Service confirmed the superior safety
record of Mexican trucks and drivers in a February 2010 report to
Congress:

"[T]he safety of Mexican trucks [in the demonstration program] is now
comparable with U.S. trucks. 'Out-of-service' violations are those
that are serious enough to keep the truck from continuing its journey
until the violation is resolved. ... However, recent data provided by
the FMCSA [Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration] ... indicate
that other Mexican trucks [those operating just in the 25-mile
"commercial zone" across the border] are as safe as U.S. trucks and
that the drivers are generally safer than U.S. drivers."
Espanuelo
2011-10-30 17:40:13 UTC
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This hurt the transportation in Mexico.
The transport price rise in Mexico.
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