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Romney Spanish-language ad: Mitt's father was born in Mexico‎
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Jose
2012-07-18 17:04:16 UTC
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My grandfather George was born in Mexico.”

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plainolamerican
2012-07-18 17:24:07 UTC
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 My grandfather George was born in Mexico.”
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Mitt's father was born in Mexico
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Mitt Romney’s family sued Mexico after using it as a safe haven when
they left the United States to flee polygamy laws.

Mitt Romney is no Mexican. A Mexican will not sue Mexico after using
it as a safe haven. When the Mexican Revolution broke out, Romney’s
family fled that, too, and went back to the United States. The Romney
family did not help with the Mexican Revolution. Why didn’t they
stand their ground and help the ‘safe haven’? Why does it appear that
when the tough gets going, the Romney family has a history of fleeing
not only the United States — but Mexico, too? This isn’t the only war
that was dodged by the Romney family, because Mitt Romney also dodged
the draft during the Vietnam War era.

For the record, nobody “forced” the Romney family out of Mexico —
because if they really wanted to, they could have stayed their ground
and fought for what was right.

From the Boston Globe:
After fleeing the Mexican revolution, Mitt Romney’s grandfather,
Gaskell lost his home and possessions. While living in Salt Lake City,
Gaskell Romney ran for County Commissioner ….. Gaskell sued Mexico for
the loss of his property and, in 1938, was awarded damages of $9,163.
Half of the money went to his son, George Romney, putting the family
on a solid financial footing.

Question: Why did the Romney family leave the United States?

Answer: The Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act which was a law designed
against polygamy.

According to The Blaze:
Miles Park Romney was Mitt’s great grandfather, who fled the
United States and crossed into Mexico in 1885 to escape religious
persecution. There he helped build the Mormon enclave of Colonia
Juarez in Chihuahua.

In other words, Miles Park Romney used Mexico as a safe haven when
fleeing polygamy laws here in the United States so that later Mexico
could be sued by Gaskell Romney.

From the SRE of México:
Twenty-seven years after Miles fled from U.S. government agents
and took refuge in Mexico, the Romney family was back in the United
States. …. the U.S. government, which had once chased Miles to
Mexico due to his polygamy, now welcomed the Romneys and other Mormons
to the United States. Congress established a $100,000 relief fund that
enabled the Romneys and other Mormon exiles to receive food and
lodging. … the case of Gaskell Romney v. United States of Mexico was
finalized in Salt Lake City in 1938. Gaskell requested $26,753 in
damages. He was awarded $9,163, court records show — a sizable amount
in the post-Depression years. The records say that Gaskell was to give
half of the award to his son George, helping to set the family on
firmer financial footing in the United States.

This migrating, immigration story gets more interesting, because after
Mitt Romney made an alliance with Kris Kobach (anti-immigrant crusader
who referred to the DREAM Act as a nightmare), we see the nativists
stating:

Miles Romney was prosecuted in 1885 under the Edmunds Anti-
Polygamy Act (for polygamy). This act allowed certain citizenship
rights to be stripped of those convicted.

Were United States citizenship rights threatened under the Edmunds
Anti-Polgyamy Act?

Absolutely.

On 1 December 1879, President Rutherford B. Hayes stated:
The law for the suppression of this offense was enacted with great
unanimity by Congress more than seventeen years ago, but has remained
until recently a dead letter in the Territory of Utah, because of the
peculiar difficulties attending its enforcement. The opinion widely
prevailed among the citizens of Utah that the law was in contravention
of the constitutional guaranty of religious freedom. This objection is
now removed. The Supreme Court of the United States has decided the
law to be within the legislative power of Congress and binding as a
rule of action for all who reside within the Territories. There is no
longer any reason for delay or hesitation in its enforcement. It
should be firmly and effectively executed. If not sufficiently
stringent in its provisions, it should be amended; and in aid of the
purpose in view I recommend that more comprehensive and more searching
methods for preventing as well as punishing this crime be provided. If
necessary to secure obedience to the law, the enjoyment and exercise
of the rights and privileges of citizenship in the Territories of the
United States may be withheld or withdrawn from those who violate or
oppose the enforcement of the law on this subject.



From Richard Droll and BYU Library:
Indeed women movements have a history of of encouraging laws just as
the Liberal Ladies Anti-Polygamy Society did with the Edmunds Act.

Was the Romney family U.S. citizenship stripped when they left the
United States? No one knows yet.

Romney is reluctant to produce tax return papers while asking
immigrants for their papers.

What we do know is that Mitt Romney has harsh views of immigration
when he proudly accepted the endorsement of Kris Kobach. In fact, he
does not even have compassion for the children when he promised to
veto the DREAM Act.

Like his fellow Republican via Russell Pearce (who sponsored the SB
1070 law in Arizona) — Romney supports self-deportation laws, too.

The Romney family wants you to believe they were forced from Mexico
due to the Mexican Revolutionary War, but what they are not telling
you is that they used Mexico as a safe haven — then sued them even
thought they collected a United States government handout. For the
record, polygamy was illegal in Mexico, too, but they were tolerant.

So explain to me again how the Romney family won the lawsuit against
Mexico again?

Indeed it is correct to say that the U.S. Government bailed out the
Romney family in their time of need when Congress voted $100,000 for
Mormon transportation and relief (which calculates to approximately
2.5 million dollars today).

I believe it has been disingenuous for the Mitt Romney campaign to say
that immigrants should all self-deport when we all know that this
moronic idea would bankrupt the United States of America. Mitt Romney
is a restrictionist, an isolationist and a protectionist when it comes
to the immigration issue.

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