The terrible mistake of revoking birthright citizenship: U.S. owes Mexicans more, not less

[Jose]

New York Daily News - ‎06/01/2011‎

By Rogers M. Smith

The story begins in 1846, when partly due to concerns that Mexico had
abolished slavery, the U.S. provoked a war that resulted in America
acquiring half of Mexico's territory, including the vast natural
resources of California and Texas. No other nation has lost so much
land to the U.S. except the Indian tribes, whose members now all have
citizenship. Mexicans could stay on their conquered lands if they
became American citizens. But few could provide land titles to
American courts, so most lost their lands and had to work for U.S.-
owned farms, mines and industries.



http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/01/06/2011-01-06_the_terrible_mistake_of_revoking_birthright_citizenship_us_owes_mexicans_more_no.html

[Iconoclast]

Post by Jose
New York Daily News - ‎06/01/2011‎
By Rogers M. Smith
The story begins in 1846, when partly due to concerns that Mexico had
abolished slavery, the U.S. provoked a war that resulted in America
acquiring half of Mexico's territory, including the vast natural
resources of California and Texas. No other nation has lost so much
land to the U.S. except the Indian tribes, whose members  now all have
citizenship. Mexicans could stay on their conquered lands if they
became American citizens.

You're mixing apples with oranges, to use an American phrase. Illegal
aliens came from Latin America or other foreign lands so, by
definition, they could not "stay on lands" that were not theirs to
begin and with which they were not living on at birth. Mexico was a
creation of Spain after a relative few Spanish conquered the Aztecs,
Incas, Mayans and a variety of other indigenous peoples. Spain has no
more claim to the U.S. than Russia does per Alaska. Mexicans invading
the U.S. have created more division and societal breakdown than we
experienced in the American War of Northern Aggression (AKA civil war
or war between the states) or during the Vietnam War period. No
nation should accept a people like the Mexicans who openly state that
their objective is to take land from us and change our language while
reducing our collective IQ and education levels down to the level of a
failed Third World country.

Post by Jose
But few could provide land titles to
American courts, so most lost their lands and had to work for U.S.-
owned farms, mines and industries.

In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they had stolen
from the Indians.

Post by Jose
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/01/06/2011-01-06_the_terribl...

[Ramon F Herrera]

Post by Iconoclast
In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they
had stolen from the Indians.

Of course they did! Didn't you watch El Zorro?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120746

Plus, the lands were not stolen. There was no Trail of Tears in Mexico
(or Latin America), AND the indians are pretty much alive and kicking.
They still own their ancestral lands, even if some 10 million live in
the US.

-Ramon

[T***@gmail.com]

Lo siento, pero tengo que corregirte, otra vez. Este es el video del caso

T.Schmidt
P.S. Los viejos sabemos tanto no por inligentes, sino por haber visto mas
mundo.

Post by Iconoclast
In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they
had stolen from the Indians.

Of course they did! Didn't you watch El Zorro?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120746

Plus, the lands were not stolen. There was no Trail of Tears in Mexico
(or Latin America), AND the indians are pretty much alive and kicking.
They still own their ancestral lands, even if some 10 million live in
the US.

-Ramon

[Ramon F Herrera]

Post by Iconoclast
In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they had stolen
from the Indians.

There are no reservations or casinos as reparation in Latin America.
No need. 400 million (*) descendants of the Native American own
everything South of the Rio Grande, as opposed to their ancestral
lands, stolen from them, in which they have reduced rights:

- California
- Nevada
- Colorado
- Utah
- Nuevo Mexico
- Texas
- Arizona
- Florida

-Ramon

(*) I am assuming that the other 100 million of us in Latin America
are Spaniards or Portuguese.

[Red Cloud]

 > In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they had stolen
 > from the Indians.
There are no reservations or casinos as reparation in Latin America.
No need. 400 million (*) descendants of the Native American own
everything South of the Rio Grande, as opposed to their ancestral
 - California
 - Nevada
 - Colorado
 - Utah
 - Nuevo Mexico
 - Texas
 - Arizona
 - Florida
-Ramon
(*) I am assuming that the other 100 million of us in Latin America
are Spaniards or Portuguese.

Why not claim all North American continent as your Latin territory?
I wonder what my Inuit race in Canada think of European immigrant
descent is claiming the hunting ground of Inuit people. If this is
not pure Latino lie or propaganda bullshit ... I do not know what it
is. What is more worse than spreading pure lied propaganda. HOwever,
it can be turned into truth once they controlled it... That's what
History revisionist do such as claiming SouthWest as Mexican territory
or claiming former Spain's colonial invaded territory as Spanish
territory.

[Tonico]

Post by Jose
New York Daily News - ‎06/01/2011‎
By Rogers M. Smith
The story begins in 1846, when partly due to concerns that Mexico had
abolished slavery, the U.S. provoked a war that resulted in America
acquiring half of Mexico's territory, including the vast natural
resources of California and Texas. No other nation has lost so much
land to the U.S. except the Indian tribes, whose members  now all have
citizenship. Mexicans could stay on their conquered lands if they
became American citizens.

You're mixing apples with oranges, to use an American phrase.  Illegal
aliens came from Latin America or other foreign lands so, by
definition, they could not "stay on lands" that were not theirs to
begin and with which they were not living on at birth.   Mexico was a
creation of Spain after a relative few Spanish conquered the Aztecs,
Incas, Mayans and a variety of other indigenous peoples.  Spain has no
more claim to the U.S. than Russia does per Alaska.  Mexicans invading
the U.S. have created more division and societal breakdown than we
experienced in the American War of Northern Aggression (AKA civil war
or war between the states) or during the Vietnam War period.  No
nation should accept a people like the Mexicans who openly state that
their objective is to take land from us and change our language while
reducing our collective IQ and education levels down to the level of a
failed Third World country.

Post by Jose
But few could provide land titles to
American courts, so most lost their lands and had to work for U.S.-
owned farms, mines and industries.

In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they had stolen
from the Indians.

Interesting argument: what gringos could produce land titles to those
close to 2 million square kilometers the USA stole to Mexico in a war
that general U. Grant called "one of the most unjust [wars] ever waged
by a stronger against a weaker nation"?

Of course, gringos can NOW produce land titles issued by that same
government that stole the land in the first place...heard about "fair
play"?

The gringos are being flooded now by mexicans and there´s nothing they
can do against this, and good that´s the way things are: at the end,
mexicans and other latinamericans will save old greasy, decadent and
rotten USA.

Saludiux
Toño

[T***@gmail.com]

Lo que estamos viviendo es el fin del Imperio. Ojala que de las cenizas
salga un mundo mejor.

T.Schmidt

New York Daily News - ?06/01/2011?
By Rogers M. Smith
The story begins in 1846, when partly due to concerns that Mexico had
abolished slavery, the U.S. provoked a war that resulted in America
acquiring half of Mexico's territory, including the vast natural
resources of California and Texas. No other nation has lost so much
land to the U.S. except the Indian tribes, whose members now all have
citizenship. Mexicans could stay on their conquered lands if they
became American citizens.

You're mixing apples with oranges, to use an American phrase. Illegal
aliens came from Latin America or other foreign lands so, by
definition, they could not "stay on lands" that were not theirs to
begin and with which they were not living on at birth. Mexico was a
creation of Spain after a relative few Spanish conquered the Aztecs,
Incas, Mayans and a variety of other indigenous peoples. Spain has no
more claim to the U.S. than Russia does per Alaska. Mexicans invading
the U.S. have created more division and societal breakdown than we
experienced in the American War of Northern Aggression (AKA civil war
or war between the states) or during the Vietnam War period. No
nation should accept a people like the Mexicans who openly state that
their objective is to take land from us and change our language while
reducing our collective IQ and education levels down to the level of a
failed Third World country.

But few could provide land titles to
American courts, so most lost their lands and had to work for U.S.-
owned farms, mines and industries.

In other words, they didn't hold title to the lands they had stolen
from the Indians.

Interesting argument: what gringos could produce land titles to those
close to 2 million square kilometers the USA stole to Mexico in a war
that general U. Grant called "one of the most unjust [wars] ever waged
by a stronger against a weaker nation"?

Of course, gringos can NOW produce land titles issued by that same
government that stole the land in the first place...heard about "fair
play"?

The gringos are being flooded now by mexicans and thereŽs nothing they
can do against this, and good thatŽs the way things are: at the end,
mexicans and other latinamericans will save old greasy, decadent and
rotten USA.

Saludiux
Toño

[Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals]

Post by Jose
New York Daily News - ‎06/01/2011‎
By Rogers M. Smith
The story begins in 1846, when partly due to concerns that Mexico had
abolished slavery, the U.S. provoked a war that resulted in America
acquiring half of Mexico's territory, including the vast natural
resources of California and Texas. No other nation has lost so much
land to the U.S. except the Indian tribes, whose members  now all have
citizenship. Mexicans could stay on their conquered lands if they
became American citizens. But few could provide land titles to
American courts, so most lost their lands and had to work for U.S.-
owned farms, mines and industries.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/01/06/2011-01-06_the_terribl...

Hey stupid. History is nothing but lies. Nobody knows what happened
160 years ago so forget it.